Storm Caller is FINE

[Gaihla]

I have played storm caller for 368 games now, im rank 3 in 2s with sc and 90% win percent, 1.2/0.2 kd, i got g24 with sc and really enjoy playing him. storm caller isnt underpowered. yes i agree he's ult is bad, and you should avoid using it most of times but still viable in right sitution. now please stop saying he's too weak and shit if you have tried him for 10 games. if storm caller gets buffed he become too powerful and people will notice that because they are curious to start "practicing" storm caller after buff. fix the EX space bug and job well done.

[MrX]

Yes cause 2s is an accurate representation of game balance am i rit?

his issue lies in 3s where because hes a glass cannon style design of high dmg, low survival, he tends to die far too fast when trying to deal dmg.

btw wats the ex bug u speak of? bugs i know so far are stormcaller R not dispelable, Storm R behaves wierdly proc wise when 2 SCs on d same team put there R on the same person, also the ulti is useable in other-side etc

[Gaihla]

i have played sc in 3s and it felt okay not up not op. ex space is bugged, it will miss enemies if they are near walls etc

[Cheechu]

*laughing*......ok i stop sry

so its a joke huh?^^

first: 2s is nothing ( no Balance )
second: A Grade is nothing
third: The SC is not rly fine. Good Offense, bad Defense and my history is long....

storm caller isnt underpowered; yes i agree he's ult is bad;fix the EX space bug and job well done;

Ult crap, Ex Space crap, Defense crap and and and ....but you saying fine ?? *stop whining pls*

[Seek3r]

*laughing*......ok i stop sry

so its a joke huh?^^

first: 2s is nothing ( no Balance )
second: A Grade is nothing
third: The SC is not rly fine. Good Offense, bad Defense and my history is long....

storm caller isnt underpowered; yes i agree he's ult is bad;fix the EX space bug and job well done;

Ult crap, Ex Space crap, Defense crap and and and ....but you saying fine ?? *stop whining pls*

try to make more sense next time thx.
i agree with OP storm caller is fine as he is now and actualy i see him better in 3's than 2's

[Kaww]

If EX space were more reliable and a bit less clunky

*failing randomly on walls/being able to control the bounces between targets instead of it auto bouncing*

It'd probably warrant a damage nerf. *super short CD on space + Ex mastery on top of potentially going across 2/3rds of a map in one go*



I don't think his space needs a range buff since it already has a 6 second CD and it's a teleport *invincibility frames + can go through walls*. His other abilities do need to get toned up.

His E allows his opponent to pick a spot to jump back in after being taken out of a fight for 1.5 secs, which kinda makes it redundant as a CC; being able to reposition or just jump back into SC's face, negating a good amount of the knockback caused is kinda eh. There's clutch moments where it can be used but, generally it's lacking.
Increasing the knockback of E some more would help, it'll basically be a igniter knock back with Tornado call properties that you can't team combo into like, it should.


His Q/m2 im kinda fine with as long as they fix the bugs involving trances. M2 does nice damage. A slightly longer range Q would be nice for harassing ranged and healers or supporting partners from a farther distance.

His shield im fine with though not much reward from landing his knock back. I was thinking maybe the same debuff as his space however...it'd be the least of my worries with him, don't like overtuning bloodlines.


His ulti is lacking as well. Range of it is kinda deceptive but damage is not that great. Pretty much going through Seeker Lightning arrow syndrome with the EXes.

His EX2, eh...can't judge. If his main defensive abilities *not counting EX1 of course* were to be buffed, this will perhaps shine more.



I played around with him for the most part. So far Ranid/SC have pretty good synergy; Ranid can follow up SC's Q and vice versa with his stun and it results in pretty nasty team combos. He's alright; amazing in some regards, lacking in others. Would be nice if they balanced out some of those extremes.

[Mr2]

SC is fine, he just take a lot of comboing like the Q meteor m2 combo, and he will burst your ass to pieces ^^

[Gaihla]

L2P issue !!!

[Krole]

I watched that EU 2's tourney and while Halbu did play SC extremely efficiently, I have to wonder if they wouldn't have had a MUCH easier time if he had played Thorn?

Seriously. Just because a GREAT player can make a character work, it doesn't mean it isn't broken or needs buffed. I kept watching, thinking to myself, wow, he is struggling to win these games because he is SC, not because he wasn't playing insanely well. Following me here?

I did some games with a g22 who was working on his SC skills and he kept mentioning how tough it was compared to other bloodlines to dps/cc, etc... With that said though, I'm not saying either way for sure, I just wonder. Is it the character Halbu was playing to win that tournament, or he could have played nearly any dps bloodline and won, because of his skills.

[Tipzntrix]

SC:

Fix EX Space bug
Untrancable Hailstorm proc
Untrancable Webi's Void Stone
Untrancable Charged Lightning proc (not the projectile, just the silence that appears on the first target if you hit 2 targets)
Ability to shoot Vengeful Storm at any time for reduced damage like MW's Charged Bolt

then we are good, I think

[Dutch09]

Fine? Not even close. No healing, little protection, little CC. So hes must have super mega damage right? Not really. Static effect isnt that good at all. Only way you get some great dps if you hit ex2, and can hit m1's in 3s, and they're close together. Which almost never happens. His ulti isnt that great at all. He needs more survivability. Give static a slow effect and buff his R with some healing. Then hes getting somewhere.

Compared to Seeker, igniter, gunner and nomad. I would say Storm Caller is the weakest. Especially, Seeker deals tons of damage and he can HEAL. Gunners has tons of damage and CC. Seeker been patched so many times. Cant see what they do to Storm Caller. G20, made smurf account and played about 110 games with Storm. Hell, even against grade 5 ranged, i barely keep up. Most of the time lowest combat value, while i hit everything! Alot is wrong with him, without healer support hes a joke entirely.

[Zcuron]

*laughing*......ok i stop sry

so its a joke huh?^^

first: 2s is nothing ( no Balance )
second: A Grade is nothing
third: The SC is not rly fine. Good Offense, bad Defense and my history is long....

storm caller isnt underpowered; yes i agree he's ult is bad;fix the EX space bug and job well done;

Ult crap, Ex Space crap, Defense crap and and and ....but you saying fine ?? *stop whining pls*

try to make more sense next time thx.
i agree with OP storm caller is fine as he is now and actualy i see him better in 3's than 2's

I've always liked reading non-native English writing because it's generally very to-the-point.
His post is perfectly clear, I doubt your ability to read more so than his ability to write.

In any case, stormcaller's M2 "effect" shouldn't trigger trances, his Q shouldn't trigger trances, his EX1 should be... changed, his EX2 needs to... hit people rather than fly over them, his E could deal a bit more damage, his R needs more absorption value, and his ultimate is lacking something. (maybe if you hit him, the ult will hit you wherever you are?)

Overall, he's on the weak side. (+bugs)

[Jadarok]

Overall, he's on the weak side. (+bugs)

Well that's par for the course when it comes to new champs.

You are either...

OP + Bugs
or
UP + Bugs

Don't have to bring him to tournaments, but still play the hell out of him and give feedback. Sometimes certain things aren't as underpowered as they seem when you figure out new ways to play (excluding bugs of course).

[Netherz]

I think he's in a good place - fun to play and good potential.
M2 discharge shouldn't trigger trances.
Imo static bounce shouldn't either but that's debatable.
Ex2 needs sorted out - it's difficult to control and sometimes just doesn't start chaining.
Ult is a little weak, maybe make it apply static and make use of it? Like extra 50 damage per sec to two targets if you hit two with the ult. A chain type effect like the m1 static.
I think they did a good job overall

[Sapador]

Space has fastest casttime, lowest cooldown and best effect on it, so if you can use it ever offensive sc is just a beast.